shit or go blind WAS Rastus (was: "Jazz Means Happy and Loose Like" (1917))
Dennis Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Mon Dec 10 11:14:55 UTC 2007
More rather than less. I'm 3471.
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>At 9:31 PM -0500 12/9/07, Wilson Gray wrote:
>>Unfortunately, I know it only from my years in the military in the
>>late 'Fifties and early 'Sixties. I may be the only person that I now
>>know who uses the expression.
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>Mebbe so, but there are 3470 people (more or less) you don't know who
>still do, including some who want to know why. I like the first hit,
>which informs us that it's "a euphemism for an impossible situation".
>So a disjunction with "shit" as the first disjunct is used as a
>euphemism to avoid referring directly to the socially taboo notion of
>impossible situations. (With euphemisms like that, who needs
>dysphemisms?)
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>LH
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>>I like it because it's essentially
>>meaningless. But then, that's its point.
>>
>>-Wilson
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>>On Dec 9, 2007 7:57 PM, James Harbeck <jharbeck at sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>>> >not knowing whether
>>> >to shit or go blind
>>>
>>> I love that expression and have not succeeded so far in finding an
>>> account of its origin. Any ideas, y'all?
>>>
>>> James Harbeck.
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>>All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
>>come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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Department of English
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Michigan State University
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