At last. A home for drinkers!

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Thu Dec 13 15:01:09 UTC 2007


At 9:55 AM -0500 12/13/07, Dennis Preston wrote:
>Some of y'all boys lookin fer a place to lay your weary heads after a
>night on the town may want to check out some Oklahoma possibilities.
>One realtor writes about a place as follers:
>
>Wonderful, Unique house located in a very sot after neighborhood.
>
>dInIs

...and a pretty strong clue as to where the realtor stands on the
"caught"/"cot" merger.

LH

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>>You may have a point there, Matthew, WRT Br v. Am variation. But isn't
>>that what dialectology is about? Had _has to do_ been spoken by an
>>American and _is to do_ been spoken by an Englishman, the difference
>>may wee not have caught my attention. But that wasn't the case. Both
>>speakers were American. Even merely within the US, there are many
>>variations, up to the point of ungrammaticality. Cf., e.g.:
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>>"You sank my boat!"
>>
>>A. "No I never!"
>>
>>B. "No I didn't!
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>>For me, A is almost laughingly ungrammatical in this context, though
>>I've been hearing  people speak that way for about 65 years. I've
>>simply never been able to get ready for the A version. I just can't
>>feature it.
>>
>>-Wilson
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>>On 12/11/07, Gordon, Matthew J. <GordonMJ at missouri.edu> wrote:
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>>>  I'm not sure why Wilson's pointing this out exactly. Isn't the variation =
>>>  between "is to do" and "has to do" British vs. American?
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>>>  "The problem _is to do_ with the power-saving systems ..."
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>>>  -Wilson
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>Department of English
>Morrill Hall 15-C
>Michigan State University
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