Heard in Missouri: "but good!"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Dec 20 03:44:17 UTC 2007


But he hurt 'im bad.

  JL

Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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At 6:08 PM -0800 12/19/07, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>OED has David Crockett killing a bear "good" in 1834 (_good_, ...adv. B.).
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> JL

And we have independent evidence that he also kilt him a b'ar when he
was only three, which would have been in 1789 or thenabouts. But the
historical record doesn't show whether or not he kilt that one good.

LH

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>"Arnold M. Zwicky" wrote:
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>On Dec 19, 2007, at 3:33 PM, David Donnell wrote:
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>> Pardon my asking: by "opaque idiom" what do you mean?
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>all idoms are to some extend semantically opaque. these ("but good",
>"and how") are especially so: knowing the meanings of the words
>wouldn't help you at all in figuring out their meaning/use.
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>> I reckon you mean there is no literal sense to either idiom... (If
>> so, I agree with you. Otherwise, please correct me.)
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>yup.
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>> Also, below you say it's "general american. colloquial, but
>> widespread."
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>> Don't you find the expression a wee bit anachronistic? I mean, can
>> you imagine any young adult using it nowdays? Just curious.
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>you might be right; this is something someone could look at. but
>there seems to be (or have been) nothing particularly regional about it.
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>> Note: I don't have enough info to circumscribe usage of the
>> expression--didn't mean to suggest it is regional. I simply reported
>> the identity & location of the person using the expression. (My dear
>> old ma.)
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>i realize that this cuts both ways. if you don't give the details, we
>don't know how to situate the report. but whatever details you give,
>we'll take to be possibly relevant to the report.
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>i picked up on the possibly regional part, because others did. my
>apologies.
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>arnold
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