/w/-/hw/ again
Dennis R. Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Fri Dec 28 19:24:11 UTC 2007
But lots of C = /k/ + w before [o].
A gob of [sword] pronouncers out there by the way.
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>Probably not. [Cw] generally > [C] / __ [o] (possibly [+round], but I
>don't have my references handy to confirm this).
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>So in addition to the whole and whore offered by Charles Doyle, we
>have <sword> pronounced [sord].
>
>Barbara
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>On 28 Dec 2007, at 12:52, Dennis R. Preston wrote:
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>> Yes; but not my sense of "ever"; I meant is there
>> any attested modern survival of a /hw/ in "who"
>> (as there obviosuly are in my own mouth for what,
>> where, why,metc..., but not who.)
>>
>> dInIs
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>>> Poster: Barbara Need <nee1 at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
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>>> Yes. In Old English (hwa)!
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>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> Barbara Need
>>> UChicago
>>>
>>> On 27 Dec 2007, at 16:27, Dennis Preston wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has there ever been a pronunciation of "who" with /hw/?
>>>>
>>>> dInIs
>>>>
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>>>>> From a recent column about a legendary Boston politician:
>>>>>
>>>>> <FreddieÃs greatest moment came during his Parkman House hearings,
>>>>> when
>>>>> he exposed Mayor WhiteÃs profligate spending at his palatial home
>>>>> away
>>>>> from home.
>>>>> ¦Who ate at the Parkman House?" Freddie thundered, his unlit cigar
>>>>> clenched in his teeth. ¦H-W-O-H - who?">
>>>>>
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