/w/-/hw/ again

[Laurence Horn]

At 1:10 PM -0600 12/28/07, Barbara Need wrote:
>Probably not. [Cw] generally > [C] / __ [o] (possibly [+round], but I
>don't have my references handy to confirm this).
>
>So in addition to the whole and whore offered by Charles Doyle, we
>have <sword> pronounced [sord].
>
>Barbara

An argument for rule ordering, perhaps?  For me,
it's [sOrd] but [swOrDi] (for swarthy), both with
open o's but only the former leading to
w-dropping.

LH

>
>On 28 Dec 2007, at 12:52, Dennis R. Preston wrote:
>
>>Yes; but not my sense of "ever"; I meant is there
>>any attested modern survival of a /hw/ in "who"
>>(as there obviosuly are in my own mouth for what,
>>where, why,metc..., but not who.)
>>
>>dInIs
>>
>>>Poster:       Barbara Need <nee1 at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
>>>
>>>Yes. In Old English (hwa)!
>>>
>>>Barbara
>>>
>>>Barbara Need
>>>UChicago
>>>
>>>On 27 Dec 2007, at 16:27, Dennis Preston wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Has there ever been a pronunciation of "who" with /hw/?
>>>>
>>>>  dInIs
>>>>
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>>>>>  Poster:       "Philip E. Cleary" <philipcleary at RCN.COM>
>>>>>  Subject:      /w/-/hw/ again
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>>>>>   From a recent column about a legendary Boston politician:
>>>>>
>>>>>  <FreddieÌs greatest moment came during his Parkman House hearings,
>>>>>  when
>>>>>  he exposed Mayor WhiteÌs profligate spending at his palatial home
>>>>>  away
>>>>>  from home.
>>>>>  ÏWho ate at the Parkman House?Ó Freddie thundered, his unlit cigar
>>>>>  clenched in his teeth. ÏH-W-O-H - who?Ó>
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view.bg?
>>>>>  articleid=1062332
>>>>>
>>>>>  Phil Cleary
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