Innocent until proved guilty

[Wilson Gray]

I agree with you entirely, Benjamin. What I've done is to compromise,
so as to bend without breaking. I use "proved" as the verb form and
"proven" as the adjective. "That is a proved fact." Oh. My. God. No
bleeping way!

-Wilson

On 1/31/07, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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> For me, it's until proven. Proved always sounds funny :)
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> Wilson Gray wrote:
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> > I wonder why it is that the "until" version is the more popular
> > rendering, as opposed to, e.g. "An accused person is presumed innocent
> > _unless_ proved guilty." "... _Until_ proved guilty" permits the
> > interpretation that the accused is guilty and it's necessary only to
> > wait till authority proves that guilt. If authority is unable to prove
> > that guilt, then a guilty person goes free.
> >
> > -Wilson, off-topic
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