"Stallion": minor correction of Spears

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sun Feb 18 22:47:32 UTC 2007


Can you supply a cite, Scott? My copy of DARE ends at Sk-.

-Wilson

On 2/18/07, Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I know that DARE also has "stallion" in this sense, though I'm pretty sure
> it also doesn't denote a female of "plus size."
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> Scot
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> >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:02:22 -0500
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> >Spears, in _Slang and Euphemism_, defines "stallion" as used in BE
> >slang as "a beautiful and sexually attractive black woman." This is
> >correct, as far as it goes, but a stallion has to be *plus-sized.*
> >Think Chaka Khan or Queen Latifah. E.g., Halle Berry is a fox, but she
> >ain't no stallion. It's not necessary that the woman be black. Any
> >"fine" or "fine and healthy" (both of these  terms are missing from
> >S&E) B[ig]B[eautiful]W[oman] is a stallion. Cf. the late, great Anna
> >Nicole Smith. (MTV Cribs is on in the background and Ice-T, by the
> >sheerest coincidence, has just revealed that a headshot of Britney
> >Spears hangs over his bed.)
> >
> >I have no idea why "stallion" is used in this meaning instead of
> >"mare," as would be expected. I've pondered this question for dekkids.
> >Iss jess one uh them black thangs that even black folk don't
> >understand, I reckon.
> >
> >FWIW, Russian slang uses _kobyla_ "mare" in a similar sense.
> >
> >-Wilson
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> >All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
> >come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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