Double modal

[Jonathan Lighter]

But do they ever use double modals ?

  I'd like to see a quote if they do.  My skepticsm comes from the utter unfamiliarity of "might could" to me after years of watching such movies at an early and impressionable age; the fact that most of them were apparently written by Hollywood Yankee types who wouldn't know a corn from a pone if it jumped up and bit 'em; as well as a (misperceived ?) dearth in pulp Westerns.

  Naturally, I could be wrong about this.

  JL
Paul Johnson <paulzjoh at MTNHOME.COM> wrote:
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Just as there were "race" movies in the thirties and forties there were
"country" or southern movies, usually cowboy, some singing that never
played in a big city. These films were packed with corn pone dialect.
Occasionally you can see one on the Western cable channel.

Jonathan Lighter wrote:

>When I heard my first "might could," I felt confused and disoriented. It was almost as bad as my first positive "anymore." (Or, or very different reasons, my first "Sir.")
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> I doubt that any double modal appeared in a movie before the ' 70s - if then.
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> JL
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>I'm not sure it's that noticeable, or off-putting, to Northerners. A
>similar "double" is the Southern double complementizer "like that," as in
>"It seems like that we're in a mess in Iraq." I made that up, but Southern
>Congressmen are heard using the form often--as would any normal Southerner,
>of course.
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>At 01:19 PM 12/28/2006, you wrote:
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>>Is that the same species as one of Jeff Foxworthy's "You might be a
>>redneck..." shibboleths,
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>>_I used t' could'a'_
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>>?
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>>-jk
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>>At 09:35 AM 12/28/2006, Scot LaFaive wrote:
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>>>This weekend, while suffering through "Smoky Mountain Christmas" starring
>>>Lee Majors and Dolly Parton, I heard Lee Majors' character use a double
>>>modal ("might could"). This isn't thrilling (esp. considering that at least
>>>one of writers is from the South as is Lee Majors), but it did stand out a
>>>little. I was surprised that a cheesy, feel-good, mass market movie would
>>>use a double modal that might frighten the Northerners.
>>>Just thought it was worth noting.
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>>>Scot
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