Cigar Sayings

[Laurence Horn]

At 10:02 AM -0600 1/5/07, Rowan McMullin wrote:
>http://thinkexist.com/quotes/with/keyword/cigar/
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>Not sure about whether these are properly attributed, but in general it
>seems an OK listing.
>
>-Rowan

This one is interesting:

"A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke."

I remember it as "A woman is only a woman but a good cigar is a
smoke", which strikes me as more powerful, somehow.  Checking google,
I find 9810 for the latter, and the usual attribution to Kipling.
Victor Herbert comes into the picture too.  What does YDOQ have?

LH




>On 1/5/07, Fred Shapiro <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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>>1. Close, But No Cigar
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>>Is anyone able to supply earlier citations for "close but no cigar" than
>>the 1935 example (from the movie "Annie Oakley") given by HDAS?
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>>Can anyone refer me to any dictionaries, books, articles, or websites that
>>have any kind of discussion of the derivation of this expression?
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>>2. Other Cigar Sayings
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>>I would be interested in suggestions of other quotations, sayings or
>>phrases related to cigars.  I know, of course, about the Freud quote, the
>>Groucho Marx line about taking his cigar out of his mouth once in a while,
>>the Kipling quote, the Mark Twain quote about smoking only one cigar at a
>>time, and the quote, supposedly originated by Thomas Marshall, about a
>>good 5 cent cigar.
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>>Fred Shapiro
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