crapper 1910...and more

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Wed Jul 18 16:21:13 UTC 2007


I used to pronounce it in "Hawaii," but since the new spelling made it compulsory I stopped.

  JL

Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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At 4:55 AM -0700 7/18/07, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>My wife (fellow New Yorker that she is) says "Holloween." I don't.
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> JL

I (fellow New Yorker) do. Actually, I think I say either version at
random. But I definitely pronounce the apostrophe.

LH

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>Thanks for the "-e'en"! In those days, the hypercorrection of
>"Hallow-" to "Hollow-" hadn't really caught on. It was still possible
>to correct people without their taking offense.
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>On 7/17/07, sagehen wrote:
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>> >FWIW (I didn't forget the "W", this time!), in the Saint Louis of my
>> >childhood and youth, at least, ca.1940-1960, "croppie," "tossel," and
>> >"liloc" instead of "crappie," "tassel," and "lilac," plus others that
>> >may come to mind later, were the usual pronunciations.
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>> >-Wilson
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>> How about Hallowe'en/Hollowe'en?
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