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Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jul 19 02:49:15 UTC 2007
I'm sorry, dInIs. The posting is unclear. Both Q and A are from a
couple of pseudonymous posters on Slashdot. My contribution is only
the note WRT "formidable" and "exquisite." As for your comment,
abstracting away from the fact that you're not commenting on my
comment, as you thought, I agree with you entirely. Indeed, it's what
I would have said, had I been fast enough on my mental feet to think
of it, myself.
-Wilson
On 7/18/07, Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
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> But Wilson, don't you really mean when you say "But I pretty much
> assume that the person is just using words he doesn't understand,
> which gives me a negative impression of him" that you mean he or she
> is using words whose "new" sense you disapprove of. They understand
> the meanings of these words precisely (but they sure ain't your
> meanings).
>
> dInIs (just takin a little crap where you eat)
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> >Q. If the rest of the world decided to start calling apples "oranges"
> >tomorrow and [someone] decided to go about correcting them, who, in
> >fact, would be more[?!] wrong?
> >
> >A. What if 49% of the people started calling apples "oranges"? What if
> >10% did? What is the cut-off where something that started out as a
> >misunderstanding becomes the new understanding? These days, if you can
> >find a few other people who share your misapprehension, you can
> >declare it "the new usage."
> >
> >When I hear someone trot out the "modern, popular usage" of "beg the
> >question" or, say, "enormity" or "irregardless," well, I know that
> >those things are sanctioned by more-populist dictionaries. But I
> >pretty much assume that the person is just using words he doesn't
> >understand, which gives me a negative impression of him. And, when
> >people defend those usages, I think, "Here is someone who can't stand
> >to find out that he was wrong about something."
> >
> >I say, "Well, you never know." In the '50's, IIRC, "FOR-midable"
> >became "for-MIDable." Now, the word seems to have returned to
> >"FOR-midable." OTOH, the shift of "EX-quisite" to "ex-QUIsite," which
> >may have occurred around the same time - memory fails - appears to be
> ><sob!> permanent.
> >
> >-Wilson
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> >All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
> >come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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