till
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jul 23 18:47:29 UTC 2007
Bill suggests that "Perhaps this line followed the one quoted by
Wilson??" Or perhaps the line that Bill quotes preceded the one that I
quoted. I'm easy WRT this point. The rap makes sense, either way.
What's interesting to me is that "pitch a bitch" was new to Bill, at
least at the time that he heard the CD (or was it the LP?). Spears
dates the phrase only to "late 1900's" and doesn't specify U.S. black
use. I've been familiar with this phrase since about 1950. The LP
dates to no later than 1973.
-Wilson
On 7/23/07, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> >I should point out that "half pas(t)" occurred only in this locution
> >and not in ordinary speech. To quote Richard Pryor:
> >
> >Q. "What y'all waitin' for?"
> >A. "'Leven-thirty. Don't nothin' start happenin' till eleven-thirty."
>
> As I recall it, the answer is "Leven-thirty. We gonna pitch a bitch at ele=
> ven-thirty."
> (Perhaps this line followed the one quoted by Wilson??)
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> This was the first time I ever heard "pitch a bitch", a phrase which has se=
> rved me well over the intervening years.
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