Another kind of buddy

[Laurence Horn]

At 9:31 AM -0400 6/13/07, Wilson Gray wrote:
>I'm familiar with it. I can't recall when or where I first heard it,
>though. Stabbing in the dark: Ferris Bueller's Day Off? One or both of
>the TV sitcoms based on it?
>
>Was it the old TV sitcom, Father Knows Best, that had children called
>"Bud" and "Sis"?
>
>-Wilson

Bud for sure (although not his real name, which I think was Jim Jr.),
but his sister was usually Betty.  I think you're right that Bud
himself referred to her as Sis, while her father Jim (Sr.) called her
Princess.  Then he went on to get his M.D. and become Dr. Welby,
a.k.a. Doctor Knows Best...

L

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>On 6/13/07, Landau, James <James.Landau at ngc.com> wrote:
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>>In Basic Training in 1969, at Fort Knox, Kentucky, I heard the following
>>definition of "buddy system":  "your buddy gets a pass, goes to town,
>>gets two blow jobs, and gives you one."  So it's earlier than the 80's
>>and not restricted to California.
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>>When CB radio became the fad around 1974, a stereotyped usage (e.g. C.
>>W. McCall's "Convoy" record) was to call someone (generally a male
>>someone) "good buddy".  By about 1980 a CB-er told me "good buddy" was
>>not to be used because it now meant a gay boyfriend.
>>
>>As for "fuck buddy" being a gay male usage, that makes sense.  The word
>>"buddy" is usually (though not always) applied to a man's male friend or
>>helper, e.g. the "buddy system" in swimming.  (However, one can imagine
>>a girl's swimming class using the buddy system.)
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>>Therefore for a woman to refer to a male lover as a "fuck buddy" is odd,
>>since women do not generally refer to male friends as "buddies".
>>Equally odd for a man (or for that matter a woman) to refer to a female
>>lover as a "fuck buddy".  Hence the presence of the word "buddy" implies
>>a male-to-male relationship, with the f-word specifying it is a sexual
>>relationship.
>>
>>OT: is anyone familiar with the term "best bud"?
>>
>>     - Jim Landau
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Darla Wells [mailto:dlw3208 at LOUISIANA.EDU]
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:43 AM
>>Subject: Re: Another kind of buddy
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>>When I was a beginning truck driver, I was told not to be saying that
>>someone was my buddy. When I asked why, I was told that the definition
>>of buddy is "someone who will go get a blow job and bring you back one."
>>I have no idea where he got that one, but I heard it a few times. This
>>was in Southern California in the 80's. I wonder if that comes from a
>>similar place as "fuck buddy."
>>Darla
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