Best buds

[James Smith]

I've also heard "best buds" for years, but with no
differentiation based on sex (or is that gender?).



--- Erik Hoover <grinchy at GRINCHY.COM> wrote:

> I have heard "best buds" for years, especially to
> describe a long-
> standing male-male friendship, perhaps with roots in
> childhood.  I
> throw that last part in because there is something
> playful about
> "best buds" as a phrase that requires explaining
> away or context
> clarification, at least in a homophobic climate.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Landau, James wrote:
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> > Subject:      Re: Another kind of buddy
> >
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> > In Basic Training in 1969, at Fort Knox, Kentucky,
> I heard the
> > following
> > definition of "buddy system":  "your buddy gets a
> pass, goes to town,
> > gets two blow jobs, and gives you one."  So it's
> earlier than the 80's
> > and not restricted to California.
> >
> > When CB radio became the fad around 1974, a
> stereotyped usage (e.g. C.
> > W. McCall's "Convoy" record) was to call someone
> (generally a male
> > someone) "good buddy".  By about 1980 a CB-er told
> me "good buddy" was
> > not to be used because it now meant a gay
> boyfriend.
> >
> > As for "fuck buddy" being a gay male usage, that
> makes sense.  The
> > word
> > "buddy" is usually (though not always) applied to
> a man's male
> > friend or
> > helper, e.g. the "buddy system" in swimming.
> (However, one can
> > imagine
> > a girl's swimming class using the buddy system.)
> >
> > Therefore for a woman to refer to a male lover as
> a "fuck buddy" is
> > odd,
> > since women do not generally refer to male friends
> as "buddies".
> > Equally odd for a man (or for that matter a woman)
> to refer to a
> > female
> > lover as a "fuck buddy".  Hence the presence of
> the word "buddy"
> > implies
> > a male-to-male relationship, with the f-word
> specifying it is a sexual
> > relationship.
> >
> > OT: is anyone familiar with the term "best bud"?
> >
> >     - Jim Landau
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darla Wells [mailto:dlw3208 at LOUISIANA.EDU]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: Another kind of buddy
> >
> > When I was a beginning truck driver, I was told
> not to be saying that
> > someone was my buddy. When I asked why, I was told
> that the definition
> > of buddy is "someone who will go get a blow job
> and bring you back
> > one."
> > I have no idea where he got that one, but I heard
> it a few times. This
> > was in Southern California in the 80's. I wonder
> if that comes from a
> > similar place as "fuck buddy."
> > Darla
> >
> >
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