put in = recommend
Seán Fitzpatrick
grendel.jjf at VERIZON.NET
Tue Mar 6 18:31:30 UTC 2007
Seems to me the idiom is put s.o. in FOR an award.
Put s.o. UP for a promotion would make sense, but would make me think the
speaker was using a non-standard dialect (i.e., not one I was used to).
Put up for seems to me more neutral than recommend, like nominate or
propose: put up for the chairmanship of the Bogsat committee.
Seán Fitzpatrick
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Doyle [mailto:cdoyle at UGA.EDU]
Sent: Monday, 05 March, 2007 08:20
Subject: Re: put in = recommend
I just gotta say, Jonathan, "put (someone) UP" for an award sounds at least
as normal to me as "put (someone) IN" for an award. "Put (someone) UP" for
promotion (to a higher professorial rank, for example) is almost obligatory;
a vertical metaphor may remain somewhat "alive" there.
--Charlie
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---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:16:35 -0800
>From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM>
>Subject: Re: put in = recommend
>
>_Put up,_" to propose for an honor or award" may well be historically
relevant, but so far as I know, "put in" has been the prodominant U.S. form
by far for many decades
>
> JL
>
>Charles Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>
>This seems like a variant of (or, at least, a structurally parallel synonym
for) "put up": OED _put_ verb 1, 56j.(a) "To propose for election or
adoption. Also, to propose for an honour or award" (examples from
1573-1971).
>
>--Charlie
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>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:21:34 -0800
>>From: Jonathan Lighter
>>Subject: put in = recommend
>>
>>Meaning "Esp. _Mil._, to recommend (someone) officially for an award,"
virtually standard American English from WWII on, but not in OED:
>>
>> 1967 in Bill Frey _Letters from 'Nam_ (N.Y.: Warner Books, 1992) 22: I
went out under heavy fire last night to bring in that wounded G.I. and I've
been put in for a Bronze Star.
>>
>> WWII related cites are myriad, but I don't believe I've seen one
antedating 1942.
>>
>> JL
>
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