FW: Re: Folk wisdom: "Treat 'em Rough !" (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Sat Mar 17 12:12:38 UTC 2007

Famously appearing in America in the 18th C. diary of William Byrd of Virginia, to "roger" has long been Britspeak, not Yanktalk.


"Baker, John" <JMB at STRADLEY.COM> wrote:
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I think it has some currency even today. Google Groups lists
303 uses of "rogering" and 479 of "rogered" since 1/1/2006.

John Baker

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> >Unless the word "roger" above means "to copulate with"
> that would be my reading [I think 'screw' might be a more accurate
> gloss], although I admit 1970 does seem a bit late for that usage

George MacDonald Fraser's "Royal Flash" is about the supposed 19th
century adventures of the cowardly bully Flashman from Tom Brown's
Schooldays. For him at that period, "roger" would be the right word.

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