Ofaginzy redux

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri Mar 30 20:35:12 UTC 2007


Joke told by Jim Grella, a colleague in the Army Security Agency.
[Grella claimed that his name was Italian for "grasshopper." However,
I've found only "grilla" with this meaning. He also pronounced "cafe"
as [keif], which is unique in my experience. He was from somewhere in
Ohio.]

Q. How can you tell when an Italian has a flat tire?

A. The tire goes, "Guinie-wop, guinie-wop, guinie-wop-wop-wop."

-Wilson

On 3/30/07, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I'm away from HDAS today, but surely the cited remark about "literary distribution" should refer to the baroque "ofaginzy" rather than the once common "ofay."
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>   My impression is that "ofaginzy," like so many exotic-looking slang terms, was never much used by anybody. In this case, IIRC, NY and Chicago jazz musicians of the '40s were the primary culprits.
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>   I wonder of the word was partially based on "guinzo, ginzo," an Italian.
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>   JL
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>   "Douglas G. Wilson" <douglas at NB.NET> wrote:
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> I have found one reference which gives a pronunciation for "ofaginzy". It
> is an English-Chinese on-line dictionary apparently produced by and for
> Chinese:
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> http://www.iukm.com/Dictionary/?Words=ofaginzy
>
> The pronunciation is given as "OH-fuh-jinzy" OR "oh-FAY-jinzy". Took me a
> while to decipher the weird phonetic symbols.
>
> How did the authors of the site find these pronunciations? Are they
> reliable at all? I don't know.
>
> [The translation seems reasonable: something like "American slang (black
> persons' word): white person(s)" according to my primitive understanding.]
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> -- Doug Wilson
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