Year names

Rowan McMullin tryxchange at GMAIL.COM
Thu May 3 13:50:58 UTC 2007


I was taught to only use and for a decimal point whether I was writing a
check or not.  I believe this was a third grade lesson.

-Rowan

On 5/3/07, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hm. You have a point, there, Charlie, and it's right on the top of
> your head. (<har! har!> Just a little 'Fifties-style adolescent
> humor.) But seriously, folks, i do remember being taught how to write
> a check, how to deal with a promissory note for sixty dollars for
> sixty days at six percent, how to write a business letter, and other
> such esoterica, when I was in the fourth grade. Do they still (try to)
> teach this kind of stuff so early in the educational process? OTOH, I
> was taught nothing that anyone would call "science" until I was in the
> third (chemistry) and fourth (physics) years of high school.
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> -Wilson
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> On 5/3/07, Charles Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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> > The "rule" (which I as well was taught) had to do ONLY with the writing
> of checks--didn't it?
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> > --Charlie
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> > >Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:34:16 -0400
> > >From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> > >Subject: Re: Year names
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> > >
> > >I had no idea that there was a rule concerning the use of "and' in
> numbers.
> > >
> > >-Wilson
> > >
> > >On 5/2/07, James C Stalker <stalker at msu.edu> wrote:
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> > >> I was taught the same rule.  As I remember, "and" was to be used only
> before
> > >> cents, in phrases such as: one hundred thirty three dollars and fifty
> two
> > >> cents.
> > >>
> > >> JCS
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Arnold M. Zwicky writes:
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> > >> > to pull out one small point, about "and" in number names (in
> general,
> > >> > not just in year names).  i recall being taught at some point in
> > >> > school that things like "one hundred and two", "two hundred and
> > >> > thirty", etc. were vulgar errors (in both speech and writing), that
> > >> > "and" should never be used in such expressions.  (this might have
> > >> > been an instance of Omit Needless Words).  the lesson seems not to
> > >> > have stuck with me, since i sometimes use one version, sometimes
> the
> > >> > other.
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