"Amerika"

[Jonathan Lighter]

Memory tells me that in 1970 (the time of the Cambodian operations and Kent State), my classmates associated the "k"  with Germany and Nazis, not with Kafka.

  JL

Dave Wilton <dave at WILTON.NET> wrote:
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I would agree. I think that "Amerika" is more inspired by the German
spelling and is an evocation of fascism--and I don't think the 1927 Kafka
novel is especially relevant. (I haven't read it, but my understanding is
that it is not about totalitarianism, rather about a European youth's
travels in the US.)

But I also think you're taking Safire out of context. He is specifically
referring to the spelling in a Hip Hop context. In the midst of several
paragraphs about African American language, Safire writes:

"Back in the day, the substitution of k for c in the word America - writing
it as Amerika or Amerikkka - was a coded evocation of the Ku Klux Klan.
Hip-hop style today deliberately defies spelling rules, especially ingrained
irregularities."

In this narrower context, he may be correct in thinking that the Klan is the
more proximate inspiration.


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Wilson Gray
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I don't know - in the literal sense; I'm not trying to say politely
that you're wrong - about Kafka being the ultimate origin, but I
agree, otherwise.

-Wilson

On 5/20/07, Fred Shapiro wrote:
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> In today's N.Y. Times "On Language" column, William Safire derives the
> satirical spelling _Amerika_ from the K in Ku Klux Klan. While that
> derivation is obviously true of the spelling _Amerikkka_, I always thought
> that _Amerika_ derived from the German spelling and probably was
> specifically inspired by a Kafka book title.
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> Fred Shapiro
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