contrastive stress on "an"
Dennis R. Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Tue Nov 13 16:25:38 UTC 2007
Larry,
Both /ey/ and /aen/ sound good to me; I think the contrastive stress
does away with the /n/ requirement in the first (and I don't have the
/n/ in colloquial usage anyhow). Fun variationist project: Does
contrastive stress on "an" more often realize itself as /ey/ for
speakers who don't have the nasal?
dInIs
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>At 9:48 AM -0500 11/13/07, Wilson Gray wrote:
>>How about emphatic "ay" for "a"? "I don't mean A man, I mean THE man."
>>I still make this distinction, but it's beginning to feel a little
>>pompous.
>>
>>-Wilson
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>I still hear this a lot in contrastive (and not necessarily pompous)
>contexts. (Im on high alert for these because it's something I've
>written about in papers.) The tricky thing (for some speakers,
>anyway) is when you want to contrast an "an" indefinite with a
>"the(e)" definite, since "ayn" is impossible (unless you're referring
>to the objectivist) and stressed "AEN" sounds a bit weird:
>
>It's not just A solution, it's THE solution.
>??It's not just AN answer, it's THE answer.
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>It's not THE factor, but it's A factor.
>??He's not THE expert, but he's AN expert.
>
>LH
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>>On 11/12/07, James Harbeck <jharbeck at sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>>> A restaurant in the Agincourt part of Toronto (often called
>>> Asiancourt because of its high percentage of Chinese and other East
>>> Asian residents) is called Thee Asian Kitchen. You can find its
>>> website at http://www.theeasiankitchen.com/ . It serves Thai,
>>> Japanese, and Chinese cuisine. My initial take on it is that this is
>>> intended to be a somehow "classier" or more formal/archaic rendering
>>> of "the". It could, on the other hand, be a Thai name ("thee" is, I
>>> think, a word in Thai).
>>>
>>> A little looking on the web finds Thee Bungalow,
>>> http://www.theebungalow.com/ , in San Diego -- it has apparently been
>>> there for 30 years. You can also find assorted hits if you Google
>>> |thee shoppe|, for instance http://www.theeamishshoppe.com/ and
>>> http://www.theeclockmaker.com/ .
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>>> Evidently this isn't especially uncommon or new (well, of course,
>>> "thee" can be seen for "the" in some Middle English texts) in
>>> signage, but I have to say I'm far more used to seeing "Ye" (always
>>> reanalyzed, of course -- nobody knows about thorn these days!). For
>>> this area in particular (Toronto and, more specifically, Agincourt),
>>> I think the "thee" is something new. The only other business I can
>>> find with "thee" in its name in the Toronto area in yellowpages.ca is
>>> Thee Place for Paws Grooming Studio in Barrie (an exurb of Toronto).
>>> I find three "Ye Oldes". (Googling "ye olde" gets 1,890,000; "thee
>>> olde" gets 3,630, but it would seem that "thee" can be used without
>>> the "olde" whereas "ye" always seems to get it -- I'm sure if anyone
>>> has exceptions I'll hear of it.)
>>>
>>> I wonder whether "thee" use in this way is on the increase or
>>> decrease or is level.
>>>
>>> Just incidentally, "kermit thee frog" gets 381 ghits. But I don't
>>> have a sense (purely impressionistically) that "thee" for emphatic
>>> "the" is really current.
>>>
>>> James Harbeck.
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