No mo' "ho ho ho"
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 15 21:07:44 UTC 2007
An excellent, point, dInIs.
-Wilson
On 11/15/07, Dennis R. Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
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> Wilson,
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> For some time we have know that there is correct political
> correctness and incorrect political correctness. But who are we
> willing to have as the decider in such matters.
>
> dInIs
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> >Could it truly be the case that *anyone* could possible believe that
> >women or children hearing a man in a Santa Clause costume saying "Ho!
> >Ho! Ho!" would think that the man was using the BE term for
> >"Prostitute! Prostitute! Prostitute!"? Y'all must be done lost y'all's
> >minds.
> >
> >-Wilson
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> >On 11/15/07, Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at csli.stanford.edu> wrote:
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> >> On Nov 15, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Charlie Doyle wrote:
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> >> > From the AFP wire, posted at Yahoo! News:
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> >> > << Santas in Australia's largest city have been told not to use
> >> > Father Christmas's traditional "ho ho ho" greeting because it may be
> >> > offensive to women, it was reported Thursday. >>
> >> >
> >> > Santas in Sydney now say "Ha ha ha."
> >>
> >> next development, reported in several places, is rebellion. from
> >> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=323141
> >> under the head "Sydney Santas rebel against ho-ho no-no":
> >>
> >> Sydney Santas have reportedly defied a request from a recruitment firm
> >> to replace "ho ho ho" with "ha ha ha".
> >>
> >> Two Santa trainees from Westaff, which supplies hundreds of men in red
> >> suits to Australian shopping centres, have quit over the politically
> >> correct new greeting, the Daily Telegraph reports.
> >>
> >> Trainees were told the traditional phrase could scare children and be
> >> taken as derogatory to women.
> >>
> >> "We ask our Santas to try techniques such as lowering their tone of
> >> voice and using 'ha ha ha' to encourage the children to come forward
> >> and meet Santa," Westaff's national Santa co-ordinator Sari Hegarty
> >> told the paper.
> >>
> >> But Santas at department stores David Jones, Myers and the Westfield
> >> shopping centre chain will still use the customary greeting as part of
> >> their customers Christmas experience.
> >>
> >> "Senior management (at Westaff) have assured us that Santas provided
> >> to David Jones have not been censored in any way," a David Jones
> >> spokeswoman told the Telegraph.
> >>
> >> Julie Gale from Kids Free to 2B Kids said Santa should be left alone.
> >>
> >> "We are talking about little kids who do not understand that 'ho ho
> >> ho' has any other connotation and nor should they," she told the paper.
> >>
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