"Hunc over de" clubs, NY 1736?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 4 16:36:27 UTC 2007


"Roger" vb. is still fairly common in UK porn. So I've been given to understand.

I wonder whether there's a connection between the "Roger" in "Trusty
Roger" and that in "Jolly Roger." Both cases appear to have to do with
someone getting fucked.

-Wilson

On 10/4/07, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> Something that I overlooked earlier seems to be the clincher that the
> "hunc over de" article is satiric and sexual:  It is signed
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>       Your Humble Servant,
>       Trusty Roger
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> We all remember William Byrd's 1711 "I rogered my wife", don't we?
>
> Joel
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