"yeah"
Wilson Gray
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Thu Oct 18 23:44:35 UTC 2007
Oh, yeah. I get it, now. Yea, Jon!
-Wilson
On 10/18/07, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Sorry, Wilson. It was Mark's note that "yea" / je / is used in the U.S. Congress that I didn't get.
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> Maybe it's worth restating that one OE syn. of "yes" was / jE /. This has survived as / je / in parliamentary language and archaic biblical language. One would expect that modern {yeah}, {yeh}, and {yea} (all pronounced much as in OE and in use throughout the anglophone world) is likewise a direct survival of the same OE word. OED, however, does not show any modern exx. (other than the formal/frozen kind) until 1905. (_Yeah_: 1905 U.S.; _yeh_: 1920: U.K.).
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> So what's the history of colloquial "yeah"?
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> JL
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> Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> My post should have read:
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> > "Nay(, Jim)" WAS USED in place of "no" or "naw" in the Saint Louis of my youth, but I
> > doubt that the history of its use is any more interesting than the
> > history of "it matters not," always used in place of "it doesn't
> > matter" or "I don't care." My WAG is that both usages stem from movies
> > and stories about the days of knights.
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> -Wilson
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> On 10/17/07, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > Err...
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> > I don't get it.
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> > JL
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> > Mark Mandel wrote:
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> > Parliamentary procedure. OED under "yea, adv. (n.)":
> > 2. An affirmative vote; a person who votes in the affirmative: usually
> > pl., opposed to nays (or noes).
> > Still in use in the U.S. Congress. Cf. AYE.
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> > m a m
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> > On 10/17/07, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> > > Isn't "nay" a borrowing from the Danish dialect of Old Norse? "Nay(,
> > > Jim)" in place of "no" or "naw" in the Saint Louis of my youth, but I
> > > doubt that the history of its use is any more interesting than the
> > > history of "it matters not," always used in place of "it doesn't
> > > matter" or "I don't care." My WAG is that both usages stem from movies
> > > and stories about the days of knights.
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