one-time "whenever", live - isogloss

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Sun Sep 2 12:38:38 UTC 2007

from on letter string "oss".

Main Entry: iso·gloss
Pronunciation: 'I-s&-"gläs, -"glos  (click on speaker icon and hear
~iesuglaas (~ie as in tie, ~u as in up, ~aa as in Saab.)
Function: noun
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary is- + Greek glOssa language
-- more at GLOSS
1 : a boundary line between places or regions that differ in a particular
linguistic feature
2 : a line on a map representing an isogloss
- iso·gloss·al  /"I-s&-'glä-s&l, -'glo-/ adjective
- iso·gloss·ic  /-'glä-sik, -'glo-/ adjective

Main Entry: glos·sa·ry
Pronunciation: -s&-rE   (hit the icon and hear ~glaaseree, ~er as in her,
~ee as in see)

Main Entry: 1gloss
Pronunciation: 'gläs, 'glos  (but hear the speaker say ~glaus (~au as in
autumn in
Function: noun
Etymology: akin to Middle High German glosen to glow, shine; akin to Old
English geolu yellow
1 : a surface luster or brightness : SHINE

Main Entry: loss
Pronunciation: 'los  (hear speaker say ~laus

Main Entry: 1floss    (oops heard speaker say ~flaus)
Pronunciation: 'fläs, 'flos

Main Entry: 1bos   s (heard ~baas)
Pronunciation: 'bäs, 'bos

Main Entry: 1toss   (heard ~taus)
Pronunciation: 'tos, 'täs

Main Entry: 1cross   (heard ~kraus)
Pronunciation: 'kros

Main Entry: mossy     (heard ~mausee)
Pronunciation: 'mo-sE

Main Entry: Ross
Pronunciation: 'ros  (oops heard ~Raas)

Should there not be on way to say "oss" in standard USA accent, so when
learners see it, they can say it.  I believe it always was ~aus and should
so be.

(not to pick on, a great free resource)

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
See - and the 4  truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at

>From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Subject: Re: one-time "whenever", live
>Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:08:57 -0400
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>Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: one-time "whenever", live
> >Just listening to Red Sox 22-year-old rookie "phenom" [that's
> >PHEE-nom] Clay Buchholz in his post-game interview after throwing a
> >no-hitter in his second appearance in the major leagues.  He was
> >asked about a great play behind him by second baseman Dustin Pedroia
> >who took away what looked like a sure hit in the seventh inning and
> >he responded along the lines of
> >
> >"Yeah, whenever he made that play I knew I had a shot [at the
> >
> >Not surprisingly, he sounds Southern (to me), and sure enough his bio
> >lists him as born in Nedarland, TX and as having attended Angelina
> >JC, also in Texas.
> >
> >I've read about (and even written about) episodic "whatever"...
>I meant "whenever" here, as above, not "whatever".  Whatever.
>I'm not sure where the isogloss actually is.  I recall it being in
>the Smoky Mountains compendium of Michael Montgomery and other
>inventories of southern and mountain speech, and Doug's comment on
>Pittsburgh would extend it northward, but I'm not clear on where it
>*can't* occur (other than the echt northeast and coastal California).
>The American Dialect Society -

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