Whiz & names
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Sep 25 22:48:58 UTC 2007
FWIW, though I've heard it since ca.1960 and understand "take a whiz,"
what I say is, "take a leak." Now, if we all switched to the latter,
it would obviate the problem. ;-)
-Wilson
On 9/25/07, Paul <paulzjoh at mtnhome.com> wrote:
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> I'm 72, grew up in Chicago and remember several women of my mother's
> generation, nicknamed Whiz. Two of them were small time entertainers
> from the '20s. one a dancer and the other was something like the
> magician's assistant. Both had great legs at least to my 10 year all
> believing eyes.
>
> Wilson Gray wrote:
> > I don't recall The Whiz Kids" as a game show. Wasn't it more like a
> > "Look-how smart-these-children-are!-Ask-them-any-question-and-they-can-answer-it!-Aren't-they-amazing?!-They-can't-be-stumped!"
> > kind of show that went back to radio days? The TV main Kid, Joel
> > Kupperman (or "Kupferman" or something similar? Back in those days, I
> > wasn't hip to, uh, I didn't know from Jewish names; I didn't even know
> > that the legendary Arnold Stang was Jewish.) looked like a buddy of
> > mine who was physically white but racially black.
> >
> > -Wilson
> >
> > On 9/25/07, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> >> At 2:25 PM -0400 9/25/07, Benjamin Zimmer wrote:
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> >>> On 9/25/07, Charles Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Google Books seems to show "take a whiz" from 1925--Benjamin De Casseres,
> >>>> _Mirrors of New York_: "There was a cellar, however, three blocks
> >>>> up the avenue
> >>>> where a gentleman could take a whiz at the wheel. No, we couldn't
> >>>> do anything
> >>>> with the wheel today." Although it's attractive to envision a
> >>>> small waterwheel
> >>>> installed inside a urinal for the recreation of well hydrated
> >>>> whizzers, I assume the
> >>>> reference is to some other activity.
> >>>>
> >>> Presumably along the lines of "take a whirl/whack/crack/stab at".
> >>>
> >>>
> >> And by the late 40s and early 50s, when "the whiz kids" was a
> >> standard locution not only for the group that came to Ford after WWII
> >> (including Robert F. Macnamara, for the term eventually turned
> >> ironic) but for other groups of wunderkinder, including the
> >> pennant-winning 1950 Phillies or TV game show contestants, I don't
> >> think there was any snickering about any possible micturitional
> >> double meaning.
> >>
> >> LH
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