Probably too late, now
Dennis R. Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Sat Sep 29 15:34:31 UTC 2007
A survey this semester of over 700 MSU undergrads (none had had any
linguistics) revealed the following:
TABLE OF VALUES FOR ARCTIC
1.000 = /arktIk/ is correct and I pronounce it that way
2.000 = /artIk/ is correct and I pronounce it that way
3.000 = arktik/ is correct but I don't pronounce it that way
4.000 = /artik/ is correct but I don't pronounce it that way
FREQUENCIES
.1.0000 2.0000 3.0000 4.0000 TOTAL
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324 231 176 34 766
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TABLE OF VALUES FOR ARCTIC
ROW PERCENTS
.1.0000 2.0000 3.0000 4.0000 TOTAL N
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42.30 30.16 22.98 4.44 100.00 766.00
So 65% belive /arktik/ is "correct" (and over 70% are "secure" in
their pronunciation, regardless of which form they thin is correct).
Just a little empirical crap to annoy y'all with.
dInIs
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>I grew up saying "Artic/antartic." Then one day in grade school
>(musta been 1956 or '57) a teacher told us emphatically that only
>losers failed to pronounce the "t." (I'm paraphrasing).
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> So I switched. Had I known Wilson was doing the opposite, however,
>I'd have stuck to my ways.
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> JL
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>Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>Some time in the early to middle 'Nineties, a brief analysis of
>English consonant clusters, IIRC, was published in Linguistic Inquiry.
>The author noted that her analysis had one major flaw: it predicted
>that "Arctic" [arktIk] would be pronounced as though spelled "Artic"
>[artIk]. When I saw this, I "jumped straight up," as we say in Los
>Angeles BE.
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>As children in Saint Louis, we were specifically taught, in
>fourth-grade "georgaphy" - another pronunciation that the nuns labored
>to eliminate - that "Arctic" was to be pronounced as though spelled
>"Artic" [artIk] and *not* as [arktIk].. As a consequence, for the past
>sixty years or so, I've been incredibly annoyed by the
>seemingly-universal use of the spelling-pronunciation, [ar_k_tIk].
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>I should have e-mailed the author and, quoting Stan Freberg's The
>Great Pretender, written, "That's right! That's right!"
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>But I just never got around to it.
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>-Wilson
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Dennis R. Preston
University Distinguished Professor
Department of English
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Michigan State University
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