William Safire on the kitchen sink

[Scot LaFaive]

> How do you pronounce "Mohicans"?  I've seen it spelled "Mohegans".

I believe they're different tribes anyway.

Scot


On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> How do you pronounce "Mohicans"?  I've seen it spelled "Mohegans".
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> > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:51:33 -0400
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> > In Wisconsin, is every sink called a "zinc" (or "zink") or just the
> > kitchen "zinc"? If it's the former, I'd tend to believe the "Dutch
> > ancestry" explanation. Otherwise, I have no clue, since the closest
> > that I've been to Wisconsin is "That '70's Show" ("Hello,
> > Wisconsin!"). My father went to Madison, but that experience had no
> > particular impact on his "Alabama brogue," as he termed his native
> > dialect.
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> > My grandmother was the last of the dialect Mohicans, since the "zinc"
> > pronunciation died with her. All living members of my family say
> > "(kitchen) sink," including my 97-y.o mother, a daughter of said
> > grandmother.
> >
> > -Wilson
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> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Joseph Salmons  wrote:
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> >> Interesting. I don't recall that pronunciation from the south or
> >> Texas, but the z-ful pronunciation of 'sink' is well known in
> >> Wisconsin, where it's popularly associated with people of Dutch
> >> ancestry. (I have no evidence on whether that's true or to what extent
> >> it might be.)
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> >> Joe
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> >> On Mar 30, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> >>> In his article on the kitchen sink in today's NYT Mag, Safire notes
> >>> that the kitchen sink was once an object made of a "sheet of _zinc_
> >>> over wood ..."
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> >>> Perhaps this is the reason that my late, East-Texas-born grandmother
> >>> always referred to our kitchen sink, which differed in no way from the
> >>> usual enameled kitchen sink standard in houses built back in the day,
> >>> as "the _zinc_," though she referred to the bathroom sink only as "the
> >>> _sink_."
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> >>> -Wilson
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