William Safire on the kitchen sink

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Apr 1 18:04:39 UTC 2008


I've never heard it pronounced. I was just going with the book title,
The Last of the Mohicans.

-Wilson

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>  How do you pronounce "Mohicans"?  I've seen it spelled "Mohegans".
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>  > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:51:33 -0400
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>  > In Wisconsin, is every sink called a "zinc" (or "zink") or just the
>  > kitchen "zinc"? If it's the former, I'd tend to believe the "Dutch
>  > ancestry" explanation. Otherwise, I have no clue, since the closest
>  > that I've been to Wisconsin is "That '70's Show" ("Hello,
>  > Wisconsin!"). My father went to Madison, but that experience had no
>  > particular impact on his "Alabama brogue," as he termed his native
>  > dialect.
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>  > My grandmother was the last of the dialect Mohicans, since the "zinc"
>  > pronunciation died with her. All living members of my family say
>  > "(kitchen) sink," including my 97-y.o mother, a daughter of said
>  > grandmother.
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>  > -Wilson
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> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Joseph Salmons  wrote:
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>  >> Interesting. I don't recall that pronunciation from the south or
>  >> Texas, but the z-ful pronunciation of 'sink' is well known in
>  >> Wisconsin, where it's popularly associated with people of Dutch
>  >> ancestry. (I have no evidence on whether that's true or to what extent
>  >> it might be.)
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>  >> Joe
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>  >> On Mar 30, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>  >>> In his article on the kitchen sink in today's NYT Mag, Safire notes
>  >>> that the kitchen sink was once an object made of a "sheet of _zinc_
>  >>> over wood ..."
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>  >>> Perhaps this is the reason that my late, East-Texas-born grandmother
>  >>> always referred to our kitchen sink, which differed in no way from the
>  >>> usual enameled kitchen sink standard in houses built back in the day,
>  >>> as "the _zinc_," though she referred to the bathroom sink only as "the
>  >>> _sink_."
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>  >>> -Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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