Camels vs. dromedaries? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Mullins, Bill AMRDEC
Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL
Thu Apr 3 16:12:10 UTC 2008
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I collect cards like these, and was aware of the website from my
interest in the hobby (the owner is doing a massive job of posting
pictures of a number of scarce trading cards).
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> Eureka! Jesse, take note. Bill, how did you know where to
> find these?
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> Joel
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> At 4/3/2008 11:35 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC wrote:
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> >These are pictures from a set of trading cards issued about
> 1888. They
> >were inserted in packs of cigarettes.
> >
> >Camel (note two humps)
> >http://www1.coe.neu.edu/~dan/z-ns-N41/N41-camel.jpg
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> >Dromedary (note one hump)
> >http://www1.coe.neu.edu/~dan/z-ns-N41/N41-drom.jpg
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> > > In the early 19th century, might people have used the
> word "camel"
> > > to refer to one species (I am guessing to the
> > > Bactrian) and "dromedary" to refer to the other species
> (the Arabian)?
> > >
> > > The OED merely asserts that " a lighter and fleeter
> variety of the
> > > [Arabian] is known as the Dromedary."
> > >
> > > Or perhaps the distinction was made only in Salem, Massachusetts.
> > >
> > > In James Felt's _Annals of Salem_ (2nd ed., 1845 & 1849), he
> > > describes several collections of animals exhibited there
> in 1834.
> > > Of one he writes "In the collection were ... camels;" of another
> > > later in the year his complete description is "There is a similar
> > > exhibition here. Of the animals were two dromedaries."
> > >
> > > In _The House of the Seven Gables_ (1851), Hepzibah's
> first, and a
> > > steady, customer at her cent-shop is a young schoolboy
> who is fond
> > > of gingerbread animals. On one visit, Hawthorne writes, he "now
> > > proposed to eat a camel." The next day he "had signalized his
> > > omnivorous prowess by swallowing two dromedaries and a
> locomotive."
> > > The day after that, when he reappears on an errand for
> his mother,
> > > Hawthorne reminds us who he is by writing "the little
> devourer ...
> > > of Jim Crow, the elephant, the camel, the dromedaries, and the
> > > locomotive."
> > >
> > > So these two writers were making some distinction. Was it the
> > > number of humps? Or the slimmer outline of the fleet dromedary
> > > (seen in the profiles of a parade or a gingerbread treat)?
> > >
> > > Joel
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