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[Scot LaFaive]

I believe what Dennis was confused (or downright pissed) about was
your use of "phoneme" when talking about "~or" because "~or" is not a
phoneme at all but two distinct allophones. Essentially, phonemes are
in your head and allophones are the actual production of phonemes in
specific environments. I don't know of any other definitions for
phoneme and allophone that phonologists use, so I'm not sure what you
mean by "search engines give several definitions." I think I'll go
with what phonologists mean by phoneme and allophone instead of Google
and Yahoo.

Scot


On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Search engines give several definitions.  Pick one.  So what's the problem?=
>  Can't you hear the differences I've pointed out?  These boorish comments =
> without any explanations seem like yahooism to me.Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20=
> , TN3, NJ33, FL5+See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasion=
> al Poems" at authorhouse.com.=20
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> > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:43:40 +0800> From: strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM> Sub=
> ject: Re: yahoo> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> > ---------------------- Infor=
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> ct Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>> Poster: LanDi Liu <strangeguitars at GMAI=
> L.COM>> Subject: Re: yahoo> -----------------------------------------------=
> --------------------------------> > Gold!> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:16 PM=
> , Dennis R Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:> > >> > Are you shitting us or =
> do you really not know what a phoneme is?> >> > dInIs> >> > Tom Zurinskas w=
> rites:> > > So of these eight, two are close to ~oor, the rest to something=
>  else,> > even though m-w.com give the notation for short oo (a letter u wi=
> th a dot> > over it). One phoneme m-w.com doesn't have is the ~or phoneme (=
> the sound> > of letter "o" in "or"). It's not a "long o" because the letter=
>  "r" changes> > it a bit.> > >> > > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, F=
> L5+> > > See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems=
> " at> > authorhouse.com.> >> > --> Randy Alexander> Jilin City, China> > --=
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