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Sun Apr 6 17:03:33 UTC 2008

I hope linguists see truespel as an opportunity for development.  It opens new capabilities for phonetic spelling  (English friendly, keyboard friendly, email friendly, filename friendly, spreadsheet friendly, capitalization friendly, and punctuation friendly).  It needs to get into other languages to link translation guides, dictionary guides, reading instruction for begniners and ESL, and analysis tools.  It's true integration for the first time for all these literacy aspects.

I've tried truespel on 13 different languages.  The results are in truespel book one.  I examined 30 words/phrases spoken at travlang.com and spelled them phonetically in truespel.  I repeated the test with another 30.  Both came out the same.   Results showed 95% of the phonemes to be within the Ameenglish foenubet (set of phonemes/sounds in a language).  These languages added 10 different phonemes that needed truespeleeng.  French added the most and swahili the least.  Tonality was not addressed.

Phonetic spelling needs to get into grade schools.  This is happening now with synthetic phonics, which teaches one sound per day. This link is to an Australian news video about a school using the British synthetic phonics program in kindergarten.   They rave about it.   http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/video#

The USA led the way in phonetics first teaching with IBM's Writing to Read system.  It tested via ETS and CAL thousands of k-1 kids who learned to write and read phonetically then transitioned to tradspel.  They were way ahead of normal instruction.  This was an idea before its time, before the internet.  It used PC Junior's and special symbols.  Truespel is simpler, better.

I'd be glad to transport the truespel converter to any site that would like it, and work with anyone who would like to advance truespel.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at authorhouse.com.

> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:20:37 -0400
> From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
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> At 9:43 AM +0000 4/6/08, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>I agree with below, but don't understand how the same sound can be
>>two different phonemes.
>
> Ah, "biuniqueness" rears its head! (Seems like yesterday, but it's
> been 44 years since Chomsky's "Current issues in linguistic theory",
> after all. Time does fly.) How would you deal with final devoicing
> in German/Russian, where a [t] can correspond to either a /t/ or a
> /d/ in non-final environments? Does truespel allow archiphonemes?
> It's not as if these battles haven't been fought, and refought, and
> rerefought. Ah well...
>
> LH
>
>>The same sound needs to be a expressed phonetically as the same
>>phoneme, no matter what the tradspel (traditional spelling).
>>
>>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems"
>>at authorhouse.com.
>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:04:21 +0800
>>> From: strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
>>> Subject: Re: yahoo
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Michael Covarrubias
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scot LaFaive wrote:
>>>>> Essentially, phonemes are
>>>>> in your head and allophones are the actual production of phonemes in
>>>>> specific environments. I don't know of any other definitions for
>>>>> phoneme and allophone that phonologists use, so I'm not sure what you
>>>>> mean by "search engines give several definitions." I think I'll go
>>>>> with what phonologists mean by phoneme and allophone instead of Google
>>>>> and Yahoo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scot
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something "in your head" isn't much of a definition. Phonologists
>>>> probably have more definitions of phoneme than Google and Yahoo combined.
>>>>
>>>> michael
>>>>
>>>> Why not? It's just a less technical way to say that phonemes are
>>> perceptual. Allophones are the way that phonemes are physically expressed.
>>> A tapped /t/, an aspirated /t/, and an unaspirated /t/ are all the same
>>> phoneme, /t/, but are different allophones. /t/, however, is a very clean
>>> example. When you get into vowels, especially diphthongs, it gets tricky,
>>> and murky. For example, some of you may think Mary, marry, and merry have
>>> different phonemes, but they're all the same for people like me who have
>>> merged them.
>>>
>>> And if you're American, you probably say "man" and "male" with the same
>>> vowel sound -- "man" with a tensed ash, and "male" the same way, but you
>>> also probably consider "man" to have a short a sound, and "male" to have a
>>> long a sound. If you say them that way (and I do), you are using the same
>>> sound in two different phonemes.
>>>
>>> When defining an accent one must make some arbitrary decisions about what
>>> constitutes a phoneme in that accent, and what constitute allophones in each
>>> phoneme. Usually we try to apply an objective rule to this process, like
>>> the idea that changing phonemes affects meaning, but changing allophones
>>> doesn't, but this is not always cut and dry.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Randy Alexander
>>> Jilin City, China
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