Heard on The Judges (embedded question)

Dennis Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Tue Apr 8 14:06:57 UTC 2008


OK. I thought it was the form of the embedded Q that grabbed you, and
I was fintah embed some Qs all over your ass.

dInIs

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>On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
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>>   Wilson,
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>>   Retention of Q-order in embedded Qs is so common that I find nothing
>>   extreme about this. What makes it so to you?
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>The fact that the speaker embedded the entire question, instead of
>answering merely, "I don't know," or  "Ah own know," as Ms. Sanchez
>actually said, in eye-dialect, caught my attention.
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>-Wilson
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>>   There are plenty of speakers who do it with WH but not yes-no (e.g.,
>>   "I don't know did they say that I had a....."), and those seem more
>>   distanced from the standard form at least to me.
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>I take your point.
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>-Wilson
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>>   >Judge:
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>>   >"Why would they [your neighbors] say that you had had a fight with
>>   >your boyfriend?"
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>>   >
>>   >Latin-African-American [Sanchez] female native-BE-speaker defendant:
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>>   >"I don't know _why would they say that I had had a fight with my
>>boyfriend_."
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>>   >I know that this is not a heretofore-unknown phenomenon. It's just
>>   >that this example struck me as a bit extreme.
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>>   >-Wilson
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