ghoti = fish

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Wed Apr 23 03:53:06 UTC 2008


It's a valid BE pronunciation in most dialects.  I remember getting
into debates with my Scottish-born ex-wife as to whether "French"
had /ntS/ or /nS/ at the end.  With me, it was the first one; with
her, the second.

Yours,
Paul Johnston
On Apr 22, 2008, at 6:26 PM, David Borowitz wrote:

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> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Matthew Gordon
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>> ti is sh, as in mention, attention, &c.
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> A bit off-topic, but the 'ti' in both of those is pretty clearly
> [tS] for me
> and not [S]. Wikipedia gives 'ti' as in 'nation', which is better
> for me. My
> question is, do we think 'mention' with [S] might be a mistake on
> the part
> of the author, or was that a valid BE pronunciation 100-150 years
> ago? (Or
> is it a valid BE pronunciation today?)
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