"my Ghossips cock", 1641?
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Apr 24 00:50:02 UTC 2008
So, is "Pistol's cock is up" and similar phrases the source of BrE
"cock-up," (roughly?) corresponding to AmE "fuck-up"?
-Wilson
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 2:26 PM -0400 4/23/08, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> >What is the sense of "cock" in the following quotation (OED2, under
> >gossip, n., 2.a?
> >
> > 1641 Brome Joviall Crew ii. (1652) D2b, He makes us even sick of
> >his sadness, that were wont to see my Ghossips cock to day; mould
> >Cocklebread; daunce clutterdepouch [etc.].
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> >
> >(I note that OED2 has "penis" from 1614.)
> >
> >Joel
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> Rght, but remember: "pudoris causa, not admissible in polite speech
> or literature". In terms of antedating, we can push it back a bit
> farther. Farmer & Henley cite Henry V (1600), II.i, which I assume
> is a reference to the pun in the following exchange. (Note also
> Pistol's illeism in the relevant passage.)
>
> LH
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> HOSTESS:
> Good Corporal Nym, show thy valour, and put up your sword.
>
> NYM:
> Will you shog off? I would have you solus.
>
> PISTOL:
> 'Solus,' egregious dog? O viper vile!
> The 'solus' in thy most mervailous face;
> The 'solus' in thy teeth, and in thy throat,
> And in thy hateful lungs, yea, in thy maw, perdy,
> And, which is worse, within thy nasty mouth!
> I do retort the 'solus' in thy bowels;
> For I can take, and Pistol's cock is up,
> And flashing fire will follow.
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