"Word" words?
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sun Apr 27 17:51:13 UTC 2008
Curses! Horned, again!
Quite so, Larry. Unless it's in a salad or in a sandwich made from? /
of? such a salad [I once had the idea that, in a language in which
CASE was expressed by PREP and not merely by case, there would be less
(historical) confusion as to what case to use when? / where?; clearly,
I was wrong] or in a can, only "tuna" is possible for me, too. And,
even when it's in a can, plain "tuna" is a viable alternative for me.
-Wilson
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 4:10 PM -0400 4/25/08, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >When I lived in Los Angeles, I found that people found some such
> >usages unacceptable. At the counter of a sandwich shop, for example:
> >
> >Yours truly: I'd like a tunafish sandwich, please.
> >
> >Counter man: *What* kind?
> >
> >YT: Tunafish.
> >
> >CM: [puzzled expression and tone of voice] Tunafish?
> >
> >YT: Yeah.
> >
> >CM: [puzzled expression and tone of voice continues]: Uh, what's a
> >"tunafish" san ...? [Then, big, relieved smile as light dawns] Oh! You
> >mean a *tuna* sandwich!!!
> >
> >YT [annoyed as hell and mumbling in anger]: Yeah. I guess so.
> >
> >And I neither kid nor exaggerate. I had to learn to give up my
> >thitherto lifelong use of "tunafish" and start using merely "tuna,"
> >after I got tired of being stared at by counter help as though I were
> >ET. Like, can a person who normally uses "tuna sandwich" truly be
> >totally discombobulated by the use of "tuna_fish_ sandwich," instead?
> >
> >Apparently so.
> >
> >One of the few pleasures of living on the East Coast is being able to
> >use "tunafish," again.
> >
> Now that I think of it, "tunafish" and "tuna" are not quite the same
> on the east coast either (just as Bolinger et al. would predict); no
> "tunafish sushi" or "tunafish sashimi", for example. And if someone
> were to offer a sandwich of sliced seared tuna with wasabi
> mayonnaise, say, that wouldn't count as a tunafish sandwich. In
> other words, tunafish comes from a can, tuna comes from a fish.
> (Even if it's a tuna fish.)
>
> LH
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