Consistent punctuation oddities
Herb Stahlke
hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Mon Apr 28 23:04:58 UTC 2008
I've found something like this fairly often with students from Africa,
the Middle East, and, to a lesser extent, East Asia. A space before a
punctuation mark is less common that no space after one.The next
sentence,for example,begins immediately.
Herb
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I had students who would do this - but surely fewer than half a dozen out of many hundreds over many, many years. The error, of course, is easily corrected, but the writers would always express amazement that you can't start a line with a comma.
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> Charles Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
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> A few years ago I started noticing, in hand-written discussions, commas placed at the beginning of a line rather than the end of the preceding line/phrase. I doubt if students could have seen that practice in print anywhere, and probably word-processing programs won't even permit it, unless a space is inserted prior to the comma.
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> >Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:28:58 -0400
> >From: Grant Barrett
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> >Does anyone know of any work that has been done on the consistent nonstandard use of punctuation? Two not-so-rare usages come to mind.
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> >1. Space before periods and commas rather than after. "Money ,that
> >devil substance ,is like heaven to some people .They have no idea what
> >hell is like ." Made up example, though I see this sort of thing in
> >emails to the radio show that I'm reluctant to quote here without the
> >correspondents' permission.
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> >2. Using commas instead of apostrophes. "I,ve done extensive research
> >but I,m looking for the actual law." Real example posted today to my
> >web site
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> >What most interests me is if there's any kind of rationalization for
> >this punctuation. Did they teach themselves to type and that's the way
> >they've always done it? Do they think it looks better? Are they typing
> >on a foreign keyboard? Are they unaware that it's different than the
> >way most people do it? Something else?
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> >Thanks, in any case.
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> >Grant Barrett
> >gbarrett at worldnewyork.org
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