"war" [wor]

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Aug 15 02:32:00 UTC 2008


Minimal pair is actually a misnomer.  It should be minimally different phonetic pair.  It's the case where one sound is different, such as pair and dare.


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> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:51:32 -0400
> From: cdoyle at UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: "war" [wor]
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: Charles Doyle
> Subject: Re: "war" [wor]
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> Yes; "for"/"four" are a minimal pair!
>
> --Charlie
> _____________________________________________________________
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> ---- Original message ----
>>Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:31:23 -0500
>>From: Matthew Gordon
>>
>>
>>Do 'war' and 'for' rhyme for you?
>>
>>
>>On 8/14/08 10:34 AM, "Charles Doyle"  wrote:
>>
>>> My problem was that "war" and "four" don't rhyme! (It's an "open-o" thing.)
>>>
>>> --Charlie
>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:46:26 -0400
>>>> From: Mark Mandel
>>>> Subject: Re: "war" [wor]
>>>>
>>>> I think Charles's problem lay in the fact that this was written rather than spoken.
>>>>
>>>> m a m
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Joel S. Berson  wrote:
>>>>> At 8/14/2008 09:40 AM, Charles Doyle wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Last night the folks at MSNBC were discussing McCain's bellicosity regarding the Russia-Georgia conflict, and the caption on the screen read "War More Years." I was baffled for a good many seconds, trying to ascertain wherein that "war" is supposed to rhyme with (thence substitute for) "four." Was that the point?
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I pronounce "war" to rhyme with "four" (NYC). Are there regional variations? (Like as in "whar'? over thar'"?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Joel
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