"Barack"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Aug 29 18:40:21 UTC 2008
At 2:23 PM -0400 8/29/08, Wilson Gray wrote:
>I'm sorry, Benjamin. I should have read your post more closely. I
>basically skipped over what I was already familiar with, B-R-K,
>whereas what was new, B-R-Q, commanded all of my attention, not to
>mention that I had the Barcas, Hamilcar and Hannibal, on my mind. And
>I also was feeling that "Lightning" was a cooler, goner, and more
>kick-ass name, under the circumstances, than the very banal "Blessed."
>OTOH, under the very same circumstances, Obama is hardly in a position
>to be seen as threatening in any way, even metaphorically. Not even
>little old colored church ladies would go for that.
>
>-Wilson
Well, I don't know. "Blessed" reminds us of sneezes, which could
presage pneumonia...
LH
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>On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Benjamin Zimmer
><bgzimmer at babel.ling.upenn.edu> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Did anyone else notice that Obama himself has said that his name means
>>> "blessed" and not "lightning"? I don't know enough Semitic, uh,
>>> Semetic, to know whether he's be right or whether his father made a
>>> mistake.
>>
>> No mistake. As I wrote on Aug. 20, in response to your "Hi!" post...
>>
>> There are two different Semitic roots: "Barack" (as in Obama) and
>> "baruch" derive from B-R-K 'bless', while "Barak" (as in Ehud) and
>> "Barca" derive from B-R-Q 'lightning'. For more on this, see my two
>> Language Log posts:
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>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004187.html
>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004196.html
>>
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>> --Ben Zimmer
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