Significant Antedating for "beaver" and "bearded clam"
Sam Clements
SClements at NEO.RR.COM
Wed Dec 3 04:19:59 UTC 2008
You're right. I read the first part, missed the latter. Sorry.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 23:16
Subject: Re: Significant Antedating for "beaver" and "bearded clam"
> At 12/2/2008 11:08 PM, Sam Clements wrote:
>>Am I the only one that knows the "Onion" is a satirical newspaper on the
>>internet the last 5 years or so?
>
> No. But apparently you don't recognize (my) satire when you read it! :-)
>
> Joel
>
>
>>Sam Clements
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
>>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 22:54
>>Subject: Re: Significant Antedating for "beaver" and "bearded clam"
>>
>>
>>>This can't be genuine -- John Jacob Aster did not arrive in America
>>>until March 1784 [Wikipedia]. Apparently I didn't note that fact
>>>when I submitted my antedating of "burger" (OED has it only from
>>>1939) which is in the same issue [see ADS-L archives, 11 Oct. 2008].
>>>
>>>And by the way, any submission needs to be dated "circa 6 October,
>>>1783" -- that's all the masthead says.
>>>
>>>Joel
>>>
>>>P.S. For those really, really interested, I can provide a short,
>>>selective, somewhat random criticism that concludes that the editors
>>>of _The Onion_ did not do a very convincing job of emulating an
>>>18th-century newspaper.
>>>
>>>JSB
>>>
>>>
>>>At 12/2/2008 05:54 PM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC wrote:
>>>>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>>>>Caveats: NONE
>>>>
>>>>OED has 1927 for this sense (female genitalia) of beaver, and does not
>>>>list "bearded clam"
>>>>
>>>>"John Jacob Astor Out Looking for Beaver" _The Onion_ October 6, 1783
>>>>p. 2 col 5
>>>>
>>>>"Should the enterprising GERMAN, by the Smile of good Fortune, reach the
>>>>fertile back woods of New Hampshire, it is likely he may find him self
>>>>secured to his very PUPILS in Beaver, and, we hasten to note, only good
>>>>Beaver at that, and None of this foul Skunk Pelt seen in those parts of
>>>>late. . . . He takes only a Brief Respite in the month of August, when
>>>>the New Found-land Territories open season on the Wild Bearded Clam."
>>>>
>>>>http://www.theonion.com/content/news/historical_archives_john_jacob
>>>>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>>>>Caveats: NONE
>>>>
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