English "laydown" = French "application"? Jargon?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 4 05:11:07 UTC 2008


Interestingly enough, it's Prismacolors to me that my wife has, though
she's now switched to Crayola. The Russian word for "pencil" is
"karandash" and I've long wondered which came first: the Russian word
with "Caran d'ache" as a pun based on it or "Caran d'ache," being so
well-known in the field that like, "frigidaire" in French, it was
borrowed as the general term.

-Wilson

On Feb 3, 2008 5:31 PM, Damien Hall <halldj at babel.ling.upenn.edu> wrote:
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> Wilson said:
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> 'On a box of "colored," i.e. coloring, pencils'
>
> No, colouring pencils.  My artist girlfriend says that these aren't for use in
> colouring books - that would be crayons - but for use in coloured-pencil
> drawing, that is, an art form!
>
> '"Smooth, rich color _laydown_"
>
> is rendered into French as:
>
> "_Application_ de couleur lisse et riche"
>
> Perhaps English "laydown" = French "application" is jargon of the
> field of coloring books. I wouldn't have expected "laydown" instead of
> "application" to be used in this context in English.'
>
> *Laydown* is the technical term for how smoothly the colouring medium goes onto
> the paper, and *application* is its usual French translation.  Some examples of
> the English:
>
> ======================
>
> 'Personally, I use my Karismas (Prismacolors to you) for most things and love
> the colours, laydown and the ability to use lots of layers but I also have
> Caran d'ache Pablos for fine detailed stuff but I find you can do as many
> layers as other types. I solved the problem by buying loads of differnet types
> of pencil and am addicted to boxes, especially wooden ones, of any type, even
> if I just look at them and stroke them. I need help...........I am an
> addict!!!!'
> (from the Colored Pencil Forum on the artists' website WetCanvas.com,
> http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422731&highlight=laydown )
>
> =====================
>
> 'These artist-quality colored pencils at a great value price. They have thick
> leads that provide bright, smooth color laydown with every stroke. Foohy
> Colored Pencils are also made from real wood so they can be sharpened in
> standard pencil sharpeners.'
> (from the online art-store MisterArt.com,
> http://www.misterart.com/store/browse/001/cat_id/470/Art-Supplies-Pencils--Pastels-Pencils--Colored-Pencils.htm
> )
>
> ====================
>
> A Google on
>
> laydown "colored pencil"
>
> produces about 1,020 ghits.
>
> Damien Hall
> University of Pennsylvania
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