Tonto and the Lone Ranger
RonButters at AOL.COM
RonButters at AOL.COM
Fri Feb 15 17:08:58 UTC 2008
Right, Dennis, we all try to COOPERATE with the speaker, but when it comes to
seeing the "point" of the narrative, our assumptions vary between seeing the
speaker as mirroring our own attitudes and seeing the speaker as having the
attitudes that we ascribe to our convictions about the speaker's beliefs. This
variability is especially poignant in the case of the "joke" genre, because
there the hearer is aware that the inception of the narrative is not simply the
teller, but some anonymous creator or series of creators. Moreover, in the case
of the Lone Ranger/Tonto joke, hearers will be affected variously by their
perceptions of and awareness of the whole series of radio, film, and comic-book
depictions of the two partners in crime fighting in the Old West (and in
addition, awareness of what is to be expected from the well-known topos of the two
male companions--see below).
Thus a member of an oppressed minority might tend to see the "What you mean
me, white man?" story as the creation of an oppresive white majority that views
minorities as untrustworthy and invents such a story to reinforce that view
and maybe even teach it to the young. Such a person might also see the name
"Tonto" as a semi-secret slur based upon the Spanish word meaning "stupid"
(despite the fact that Tonto is depicted as a wise Noble Savage throughout the
entire series).
A member of the white majority who is familiar with the LR/T story would be
likely to see the story in some variation of the reading that I have always
given it: as a joke about the weakness of the human spirit in the face of danger
and adversity: even the noble Tonto, the "faithful Indian companion," one of a
huge number of faithful companions well-known in stories going back to
Chaucer, may turn to betrayal if there is a chance to save his own skin. The
REVERSAL of the normal expecations is what makes the story funny.
And, as boyhood lover of the LR/T radio program, I would have laughed at the
idea that Tonto's name had anything to do with the Spanish adjective (a word
that I did not learn until I was in my 30s). to me as a boy, it was just a name
that sounded appropriately non-white. Tonto was always depicted so nobly that
it would just have been absurd to think that anyone chose his name to
belittle him.
There are other (more recent) readings, e.g., the reading that focusses on
the subserviant role of Tonto and the "broken" English that he speaks as
inherently racist; and the reading that sees the story as an instance of the topos of
the two male companions, one of whom is subserviant (Prince Hal and
Fallstaff; Don Quixote and his sidekick; Batman and Robin; Gene Autry and [I forget his
name]; Red Rider and Little Beaver [!]; Hopalong Cassidy and somebody [I
forget HIS name] (these all get a special twist in gay subculture readings and
Freudian readings); Roy Rogers and Dale Evans (a real innovation, since she was a
GIRL--and his WIFE).
We could probably tease out a Marxist reading as well. Or an anti-gay
marriage one ("These same-sex relationships just don't stand up in the face of
adversity--it is every man for himself").
In a message dated 2/15/08 7:21:48 AM, preston at MSU.EDU writes:
> I'm saving this exchange as the best example of point-of-view
> difference in textual interpretation I've seen in a long time. For
> Wilson it is a put-down of the minority as untrustworthy but for
> James a justifiable come-uppance for the majority figure.
>
> Although "readers" rather than "texts" turn out to be the determining
> factor here, ya'll (y'all) need not worry; I ain't going post-Modern
> on you.
>
> dInIs
>
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> >Poster: James Harbeck <jharbeck at SYMPATICO.CA>
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> >>I heard the punchline ca.1944 as "What you mean, 'we,' white man?" And
> >>no mention was made of weapons. Of course, such jokes have many
> >>different versions. I heard it in Saint Louis from a white neighbor
> >>boy and I took its point to be that, when the deal goes down, white
> >>people can not trust the non-white and I didn't find it humorous at
> >>all.
> >
> >Hm. I took no such general point from it. To me it was specifically
> >about the characters in question. I've never idolized the Lone
> >Ranger; to me he's, if anything, more a figure of fun. In the
> >situation in question, the Indians are probably angry with him for
> >shooting a lot of them, which seems justifiable to me. I tend to
> >think of the punch line whenever someone wants to include me by
> >assumption in what I see as perhaps not the right side of the debate.
> >In other words, I'm identifying with Tonto. Enough with this Lone
> >Ranger dude! He can get his own ass out of this mess, I'm not
> >covering for him this time.
> >
> >Thanks for the reminder, though, that not everyone sees these things
> >from the same perspective.
> >
> >James Harbeck.
> >
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