An obscure bit of military slang
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 25 14:36:25 UTC 2008
Back in the day, my roommate told me the following Firesign Theater routine:
[Intro that I've forgotten]
Quizmaster: That's right, Mrs. Jones! you are a winner! Now, please
make your choice. Will you choose what's behind the golden door or
what's in this brown paper bag?
Mrs. Smith: I choose what's in that brown paper bag.
[Sound of crinkling as brown paper bag is opened]
Mrs. Smith [in state of shock]: Why, why, this is a bag of shit!!!
Quizmaster [voice filled with joy] Yes, Mrs. Smith, It's shit! But
it's _GOOD_ shit!!!
I blush to admit it, but, even though when I first heard this bit
(summer of 1972), it cracked me up and "It's shit, but it's *good*
shit!" became a catchphrase in our clique, it was only a few weeks ago
that it was explained to me that the "shit" in the brown bag was
Acapulco gold. *That* was why the shit was *good* shit!
That is, for 36 years, I had completely missed the point of the
routine. For all this time, I had thought that the "bag of shit" was
literally a bag of shit! What I found funny was the idea that the
quizmaster could seriously think that anyone would consider a bag of
shit, as long as the shit was, in some sense, "good" shit, to be
something desirable.
This despite the fact that, years before, in an Amsterdam club, a
Dutch West Indian had asked me, "Say, mon. You go for that shit?" I
had immediately understood that he was trying to con me into buying a
bag of oregano that was supposed to be weed and was by no means asking
whether I was interested in literal shit. And, in Deutschlisch,
"Schitt" always has / had? the meaning, "marijuana, grass, weed," etc.
IAC, now that I understand the true import of the routine, I've been
as happy as a pig in shit.
-Wilson
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
> ---------------------- Information from the mail header -----------------------
> Sender: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster: Dennis Preston <preston at MSU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: An obscure bit of military slang
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Wilson,
>
> Good proverbial shit (not counting lots of slang shits as a single
> lexical item, e.g., this blow is some good shit) is not just
> military, at least in the form to "to X like a pig in shit," a
> proverbial comparison indicating only good or desirable outcomes.
>
> Mah wahf (Milwaukee): How'd you sleep last night.
> Me (Louisville): Like a pig in shit.
> Mah wahf: ???????
>
> The more specific ("lucky") military sense seems pretty clearly
> related to the again much more widely distributed "fall into a pile
> (gob, etc...) of shit and come out smelling like a rose."
>
> dInIs
>
>
>
> >---------------------- Information from the mail header
> >-----------------------
> >Sender: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >Poster: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> >Subject: An obscure bit of military slang
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >"To live in shit"
> >
> >To have everything go right, despite the fact that there's no reason
> >to expect it to and, especially, if there is a possibility that things
> >might go horribly awry.
> >
> >I.e., at a full-dress inspection at the Army Language School. Whelan
> >forgot to put on the "brass" that's obligatory whenever the "class-A"
> >uniform is worn. Since these inspections took place only on Fridays,
> >he would have received a "gig" and been confined to quarters for the
> >weekend. However, by sheer chance, that Friday's inspection was
> >carried out by a Navy officer - the Navy, unlike the Air Force, had no
> >language school of its own and used the Army's school - who, being
> >unfamiliar with Army-uniform protocol, failed to notice that Whelan
> >was out of uniform.
> >
> >Since Monterey, CA, where the Language School, now called the Defense
> >Language Institute, is located, is a major tourist destination only a
> >few miles from San Francisco, confinement to quarters was tantamount
> >to solitary confinement, since the barracks would have been as empty
> >as the Sahara till Sunday night. So, he was very lucky.
> >
> >Another time, Whelan unexpectedly dropped by my crib. There would be
> >nothing of interest about this, except that this occurred in
> >Cambridge, MA, in 1972 and Whelan had seen neither hide nor hair of me
> >since we were students together in 1960, when I lived in Los Angeles,
> >and, hence, he had no reason whatsoever to think that I would be in
> >Cambridge. He was looking up someone else in the phone book, when he
> >ran across my name. Given that he hadn't seen me or heard about me in
> >twelve years, there was no reason at all for him to think that it
> >could possibly the same guy that he had known in the Army more than a
> >dekkid earlier. Of course, he could have called to check, but he
> >didn't. He simply dropped by. Needless to say, since he hadn't
> >bothered to call ahead, I might not have been home. But I was. And,
> >naturally, I might not have been the same guy. But I am. So, he was
> >very lucky.
> >
> >Were I still in the military, I'd say that Dennis Whelan lived in
> >shit. And his luck o' the Irish neither began nor ended with these two
> >anecdotes.
> >
> >-Wilson
> >--
> >All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
> >come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >-----
> > -Sam'l Clemens
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------
> >The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>
>
> --
> Dennis R. Preston
> University Distinguished Professor
> Department of English
> Morrill Hall 15-C
> Michigan State University
> East Lansing, MI 48864 USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>
--
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-----
-Sam'l Clemens
------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
More information about the Ads-l
mailing list