Must needs
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jan 17 17:21:44 UTC 2008
So, as Michael points out, "needs must" is merely another way of
saying, "necessity compels." I wonder why anyone would reverse the
word order when "must needs" is so clearly transparent? Or should that
be, "transparently clear"?
-Wilson
On Jan 17, 2008 11:08 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 9:47 PM -0500 1/16/08, Wilson Gray wrote:
> > Re:"Needs must when the devil drives."
> >
> >Who? Barbara? What? I don't get it.
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> >-Wilson
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> By the way, there's a nice mini-entry by Michael Quinion on the above
> expression at http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-nee1.htm. Seat
> belts are probably a good idea under the same circumstances, but no
> relevant proverb exists for that.
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> LH
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> >On Jan 16, 2008 6:53 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> >> At 3:36 PM -0800 1/16/08, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
> >> >Must needs was used by Mahatma Gandhi.
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> >> >One must needs be as humble as the dust. (Citation from
> >> >http://www.writespirit.net/sri_chinmoy/books-by-sri-chinmoy/mahatma-gandhi-the-heart-of-life/mahatma-gandhi-by-sri-chinmoy)
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> >> >I remember not being able to parse this in high school but finding that
> >> >other people had not problem. BB
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> >> and then there "needs must", as in "Needs must when the devil drives".
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> >> LH
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