isoglosses for hw/w

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jan 29 16:12:40 UTC 2008

You, Larry, are correct, sir!


On 1/29/08, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at> wrote:
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> At 10:13 AM -0500 1/29/08, David Bowie wrote:
> >From:    Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> >
> >>If North Midland distinguishes between, e.g. "hem, ten" and "him,
> >>tin," a distinction unknown in California, then U.S. West can't
> >>possibly be what happened when North Midland expanded westward.
> >
> >Well, like i said--lies my lx professors told me.
> >
> >>BTW, has anyone besides me, who have a special reason for doing so,
> >>noticed how Southern (I use the term in its loosest sense, being but
> >>feebly learned in dialectology; once the technical terms move much
> >>beyond "isogloss," I need a cab in order to catch up) the speech of
> >>the farming areas of California sounds? I've felt a draft in towns as
> >>large as Fresno and even though that was the first place that I ever
> >>was in in which public signage, e.g. in the Greyhound station, was in
> >>Spanish as well as in English.
> >
> >I don't have it here, but doesn't the ANAE data show an island of fairly
> >strongly "Southern" features clustered in and around Bakersfield,
> >California? I know I've heard (from linguists and non-linguists) who've
> >noticed the "Southern"-ness of the are that this might be a result of
> >the massive Okie migration to the area during the Dust Bowl, but i have
> >no idea if that's a reasonable explanation.
> >
> Just a WAG, but isn't there oil country around Bakersfield too, with
> all that that implies (southern speech, country and western music and
> bars, etc.)?  Was there a migration of oil field roughnecks distinct
> from the earlier Steinbeck-era migration of dust bowl farmers?
> LH
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