"to boldly go"

Mark Mandel thnidu at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 30 21:24:43 UTC 2008

I'd say that when they changed "no man" to "no one", they didn't think (as
we do) about fussy little questions like what universe the voice-over is in.

m a m

On Jan 30, 2008 2:33 PM, <RonButters at aol.com> wrote:

> So the voice-over is not in the same universe of discourse as the program
> itself? Or is the speaker just wrong--since we know that there are lots of
> places
> in the universe where "sapients" other than humans have gone?
> Not to mention angels ...
> In a message dated 1/30/08 2:03:00 PM, thnidu at GMAIL.COM writes:
> > ISTM that as soon as you refer to Klingons, including asking whether
> > Klingons qualify as "one", you have entered an sf universe of discourse.
> The
> > possible referents of "(some/any/no) one", to me, are just about
> equivalent
> > to the referents of "person". If you refer to Klingons at all, you are
> > referring to sapients: individuals whose intelligence and personhood is
> of
> > the same level as that of humans, and who (not "which") are therefore
> > persons and therefore are included in "-one" references.
> >

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