Who's diddling and how?

[Joel S. Berson]

At 7/15/2008 11:38 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Disposition: inline
>
>Benjamin Barrett supplies the quotation:
>
>"_He diddled on the ground_ and, at long last, looked up and said: let
>him who has not sinned be the first to cast the first stone at the
>sinner."
>
>Whoa! My initial interpretation was that he lay down on the ground and
>then fucked it [i.e, the ground, the soil, the dirt, the very earth]!
>That's a heavy picture to put into someone's mind. I was wondering
>whether there was grass or weeds, bare earth, sand, whether he had
>skinned his dork (in the skinned-knee sense, not the skinned-back
>sense), etc.

Masturbated, and let his "seed" fall upon the ground.  How did Onan
perform the act in the Bible?

Joel


>-Wilson
>
>On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Benjamin Barrett
><gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > ---------------------- Information from the mail header
> -----------------------
> > Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > Subject:      Who's diddling and how?
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Just as a forewarning, there are some pretty X-rated citations below.
> >
> > The AHD4's definitions of diddle include:
> >
> > 1. to jerk up and down or back and forth
> > 2. vulgar slang
> > a. to have intercourse with (a woman)
> > b. to practice masturbation upon
> >
> > My concern is  the relevance of "(a woman)". Generally, I take this
> > sort of definition to be a remnant of older heterocentrist definitions
> > and intended to mean "to play the active part in sexual intercourse",
> > but it seems that not even that is adequate:
> >
> > -----
> > The Ball of Kirriemuir
> (http://www.turoks.net/Bordello/TheBallOfKirriemuir.htm
> > ) provides 17 examples of diddle:
> >
> > 1. The village glazier he was there, with his prick of glass
> > He diddled 'em in their cunnys, and also in the ass!
> >
> > 1. the ladies wouldna have 'em, so they diddled dogs and trees!
> >
> > 2. The old fishmonger he was there, a dirty stinkin sod
> > He never got a rise that night, so he diddled 'em with a cod!
> >
> > 3. Clan MacChluarain they were there, chasin' round the Keep
> > And every single man of them buggerin' a sheep!
> >
> > (insert name) had a gerbil, he diddled it very well
> > He didn't wrap it in duct tape: he blew it all to hell!
> >
> > 4. (Insert name), she was there, and she is past eighteen;
> > She is a rapier fighter, so she diddled Florentine!
> >
> > 5. Jack Sprat could eat no fat, his wife could eat no lean,
> > So she did the Fubba-Wubbas, while he diddled a Marine...!
> > -----
> >
> > I think this covers just about every male/female/animal pairing
> > possibility, demonstrating that diddle is not limited to just a man
> > having intercourse with a woman. And Wiktionary agrees, saying "to
> > have sex with".
> >
> > -----
> > Also, in Letters to Penthouse X (http://tinyurl.com/6feo6h, page 131,
> > 2000), there's "cockhead...as she diddled her clit with it." While
> > this appears more related to definition 1 than 2, there are these as
> > well, which hint to the development of definitions 2 from 1:
> >
> > 6. She diddled herself [with a baster].
> > (The Sperm in Amy Lowe's Frig, by Roberta Price,
> http://www.prisoners.com/amysperm.html)
> >
> > 7. As she diddled herself with a candle,
> > (Street of the thousand assholes,
> http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=5&t=143)
> > ------
> >
> > I have trouble understanding what definition 2b actually means. Does
> > this mean to masturbate and ejaculate on someone? Do you "diddle on/
> > upon" someone? I think this is what Danny Glover's character did in
> > _The Color Purple_ instead of sex, though Whoopi Goldberg's character
> > called it "his business".
> >
> > Wiktionary says "to masturbate (especially of women)".
> >
> > Google has only a few hits for "he diddled on". Of the three citations
> > that seem relevant, only one is available:
> >
> > 1. He diddled on the ground and, at long last, looked up and said: let
> > him who has not sinned be the first to cast the first stone at the
> > sinner.
> > I assume he's talking about Onan here, though in the text, Jesus is
> > the antecedent of "he". (What Should be Africans Attitude to Americans
> > War on Terror by Ozodi Thomas Osuji, 19 Oct 2006 http://tinyurl.com/5jxlbq)
> >
> > Okay, no more diddling around. Back to work!
> > BB
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >
>
>
>
>--
>All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
>come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>-----
>  -Sam'l Clemens
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org