bogart

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Jul 18 15:57:35 UTC 2008


At 9:10 AM -0600 7/18/08, Marc Velasco wrote:
>for some reason, I had thought the term mean to hold, but not to consume,
>and instead to talk, a lot, at length, on various topics, while the joint
>(or cigarette) burned itself out.
>
>but apparently that was a  mistake.

I think that would count as bogarting (or hogging) the joint as well.
It's the not-passing-along part of it that's crucial:

Don't bogart that joint, my friend,
Pass it over to me
...
You've been holding onto it,
And I sure would like a hit.



LH

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>On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>  In addition to bogarting Girl Scouts (or were there Brownies on that
>>  ice cream?), there are also bogarting Venezuelan capuchin monkeys, in
>>  the archives Feb. 11, 2008.  The author of the NYTimes article that
>>  gave me that information, Natalie Angier, credited the same tradition
>>  (from Humphrey) and song in an email message.
>>
>>  Joel
>>
>>  At 7/18/2008 07:23 AM, David A. Daniel wrote:
>>  >There was a discussion here some time ago about "bogart". Happens it is
>>  >today's word of the day from M-W. Thought I would share, fwiw.
>>  >bogart
>>  >verb
>>  >Meaning
>>  >1 : bully, intimidate
>>  >*2 : to use or consume without sharing
>>  >Example Sentence
>>  >Three of the older girls bogarted the ice cream, ignoring the other
>>  campers'
>>  >pleas for them to share.
>>  >Did you know?
>>  >The legendary film actor Humphrey Bogart was known for playing a range of
>>  >tough characters in a series of films throughout the 1940s and 1950s,
>>  >including The Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, and The African Queen. The men
>>  he
>>  >portrayed often possessed a cool, hardened exterior that occasionally let
>>  >forth a suggestion of romantic or idealistic sentimentality. Bogart also
>>  had
>>  >a unique method of smoking cigarettes in these pictures - letting the butt
>>  >dangle from his mouth without removing it until it was almost entirely
>>  >consumed. It is believed that this habit inspired the current meaning of
>>  >"bogart," which was once limited to the phrase "Don't bogart that joint
>>  >[marijuana cigarette]," as popularized by a song on the soundtrack to the
>>  >film Easy Rider, among other things. Today "bogart" can be applied to
>>  >hogging almost anything.
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