the spoken sounds of ing/ink and ang/ank

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jun 2 19:02:02 UTC 2008

I listened to your comments and pronunciations, and I disagree that
you have IPA [i] in "sing" or "sink."  It is well known among
phoneticians that a final velar nasal will raise a lax high front
vowel slightly, but not to the extent of making it a tense vowel, and
you don't pronounce it with a tense vowel.  What surprised me though
was that you pronounce all "-ing" forms with a final voiced velar
stop, including in "singer," which you say does not have it.  There
are dialects, most notably Long Island, that pronounce a [g] after
final [ŋ], but I'm not sure that yours is that Long Island dialect.
What surprised me even more was that when you were demonstrating the
lax [ɩ] of "sin" as you think it might sound before [ŋ], you were
saying an alveolar nasal [n] followed by a voiced velar stop [g], a
combination that simply doesn't occur in syllable-final position in
English.  In other words, [sɩng] is not a possible word in English.


On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at> wrote:
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