Folk etymology definition

[Dave Wilton]

Yes, one is a process and one is a result.

I would agree that the first (technical) sense of "folk etymology" is
misnamed, but I didn't create the term. It is what it is.

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Dennis Preston
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You mean the people who folk-etymologized "bridegumer" knew what they
were doing? Unless you are distinguishing between process and result,
I till don't get it.

dInIs


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>The first sense is a specific category of lexical transformation: taking an
>unfamiliar word and modifying it to a form that is familiar, e.g.,
>"brideguma" to "bridegroom," "catercorner" to "kittycorner."
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>The second sense includes any popularly held belief about a word or phrase
>origin, e.g., "news" is an acronym for north-east-west-south, "dead ringer"
>comes from bells attached to coffins in case the deceased wasn't really
dead
>and needed to summon help. Typically, however, it does not include folk
>etymologies in the first sense as this is usually not recognized as a
>potential method of transformation by those who have not studied the field.
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>What's the difference between the two (except time depth)?
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>dInIs
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>>"Folk etymology" can be a confusing term because there are two distinct
>>senses of the term.
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>>The sense that M-W defines is the more technical one. It's the sense
you'll
>>find more often in the work produced by linguists and lexicographers. The
>>word need not be borrowed from another language to be subject to folk
>>etymology, only unfamiliar to a particular group of speakers. "Bridegroom"
>>is a good example of a folk etymology that is not borrowed. As the Old
>>English "gome" or "guma" (man) fell out of use, it was transformed into
>>"groom" in the specific sense of a man to be married.
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>>The other sense is that of a popular etymology, a commonly held belief,
>>often but not necessarily untrue, about the origin of a word or phrase.
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>>Scot LaFaive
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>>Reading through the "Did you know?" section of the MW word of the day
>email,
>>I came across this:
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>>"...a process called folk etymology, in which a word of another language
is
>>transformed to a more familiar-sounding term..."
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>>I've never heard folk etymology defined as such and it seems completely
>>wrong from what I've always been taught and read. Is there some hidden
>>definition that I've never heard of before or is Merriam Webster shoveling
>>shit?
>>
>>Scot
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>>BTW, here's the full section:
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>>"The Chinook of the Pacific Northwest were avid traders, and in the course
>>of their history a trade language developed that came to be known as
>Chinook
>>jargon, based on a combination of Chinook and other American Indian
>>languages with English and French. The Chinook jargon term "hayo makamak"
>>meant "plenty to eat." By a process called folk etymology, in which a word
>>of another language is transformed to a more familiar-sounding term,
"hayo"
>>was identified with "high" and the spelling and meaning of the entire
>phrase
>>was transformed. Beginning in the 19th century, the term
"high-muck-a-muck"
>>referred to a self-important person. Since then, the expression has taken
>on
>>several variations, including "high mucky-muck" and "high-muckety-muck,"
>and
>>nowadays the "high" is often dispensed with entirely."
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