/l/ vocalization

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri Mar 21 18:19:45 UTC 2008


Far enough back that I can only guess at what "deep" means, as used
here. "The center or heart of the Ellum 'hood," as in "Deep South,"
perhaps?

-Wilson

On 3/20/08, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>  At 10:59 PM -0400 3/20/08, Mark Mandel wrote:
>  >On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
>  >
>  >>  Wilson,
>  >>
>  >>  I've always taken these to be hypercorrections by those of us who
>  >>  vocalilze our postvocallic /l/s. They were very common pronunciations
>  >>  in my parts of the South Midlands (Southern IL & IN, and Northern and
>  >>  Western KY among older working class speakers, white and black.
>  >
>  >"Ellum" is attested from New England 150 years ago:
>  >
>  >>  The hubs of logs from the "Settler's ellum," --
>  >>  Last of its timber, -- they could n't sell 'em,
>  >>
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> A lot older than Deep Ellum Blues.  But those blues are named for the
>  eponymous street and neighborhood in Dallas--how far back does that
>  go?
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>
>  LH
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>  >>From "The Deacon's Masterpiece Or, The Wonderful 'One-Hoss Shay': A
>  >Logical Story", by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. 1858.
>  >
>  >poem: http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/Oliver-Wendell-Holmes/16658
>  >date:
>  >http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1972/1/1972_1_108.shtml
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>  >Mark Mandel
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