/l/ vocalization
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri Mar 21 18:19:45 UTC 2008
Far enough back that I can only guess at what "deep" means, as used
here. "The center or heart of the Ellum 'hood," as in "Deep South,"
perhaps?
-Wilson
On 3/20/08, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 10:59 PM -0400 3/20/08, Mark Mandel wrote:
> >On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
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> >> Wilson,
> >>
> >> I've always taken these to be hypercorrections by those of us who
> >> vocalilze our postvocallic /l/s. They were very common pronunciations
> >> in my parts of the South Midlands (Southern IL & IN, and Northern and
> >> Western KY among older working class speakers, white and black.
> >
> >"Ellum" is attested from New England 150 years ago:
> >
> >> The hubs of logs from the "Settler's ellum," --
> >> Last of its timber, -- they could n't sell 'em,
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> A lot older than Deep Ellum Blues. But those blues are named for the
> eponymous street and neighborhood in Dallas--how far back does that
> go?
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> LH
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> >
> >>From "The Deacon's Masterpiece Or, The Wonderful 'One-Hoss Shay': A
> >Logical Story", by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. 1858.
> >
> >poem: http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/Oliver-Wendell-Holmes/16658
> >date:
> >http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1972/1/1972_1_108.shtml
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> >Mark Mandel
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